It seems we were right to blame the parents after all

  Forum Editor 29 Aug 11

A study based on 15,000 children born in the UK in the last 40 years has revealed that "bad parenting at 16 made children more than eight times more likely to drink excessively at that age and over twice as likely to binge drink when they were 34."

and that " that parenting which combined high levels of both warmth and discipline "results in the child overall in their lives achieving lots of positive things - well-being, responsibility, efficacy, and responsible alcohol consumption is one of them."

Now I'm going right out on a limb here, but I would have thought anyone with a few grains of common-sense could work that out for themselves.

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Perfect parents needn't bother.

  rdave13 30 Aug 11

'Researchers found that the best approach was for parents to be warm and affectionate until the age of 10 and then combine this with more discipline. Then at ages 15 to 16 there should be more supervision.'

What a load of rubbish. I'm always warm and affectionate until they step off the mark. In my experience the age of just turning six is when they start challenging you and asking awkward questions as any normal child does. You either help the child along with what is right and what is wrong, from that age, or you don't bother. What a load of tosh in my humble experience of raising five children.

  morddwyd 30 Aug 11

Children are like dogs.

They need to know from an early age who the pack leader is!

Seriously, my father, who brought me up alone from when I was eight, was teetotal and I only recall him striking me once.

Like most of my contemporaries I drank like fish as a teenager, but, as I said elsewhere recently, the only time the police ever spoke to me was when I once failed to come to a complete stop, on my push bike, at a halt sign.

At 16 parenting was over as I had already joined up.

I was no different from tens of thousands of others.

Parenting and example play their part, but it's society, as a whole environment, which plays the greater part in responsible upbringing.

We're to blame for the current state of things, good or bad, nobody else.

  Quickbeam 30 Aug 11

40 years seems a long time to spot the obvious.

  Aitchbee 30 Aug 11

FE you said "Now I'm going right out on a limb here, but I would have thought anyone with a few grains of common-sense could work that out for themselves." A lot of people 'out there' are lacking in this commodity. But, I agree with you, in your general summing-up.

  Toneman 30 Aug 11

Dare I suggest that a lot of trouble stems from the way past governments have all put family life on the back know what I mean...

  buteman 30 Aug 11

I would think that if the parents drink and smoke the chances are that the children will also do the same.

Now you can't blame the parents because it was what their parents and their parent before that from whom they all learned.

Maybe they should ban drinking the way they ban smoking and that may help future generations.

I suppose most parents nowadays are more interested on what program is on TV next than what their kids are up to.

If parents are well behaved the chances are that there children will grow up the same way.

Not always the case I suppose but the chances are higher.

If parents don't give a Dam what their kids get up to their kids are more likely to do the same when they grow up.

  Quickbeam 30 Aug 11

Of course there is always the statistic like me that bucks the trend never fits any pre-determined slot:)

As the youngest of a family of 7 that smoked like chimneys and drank like fish, I'm a lifelong non-smoker and a fairly moderate drinker.

  HondaMan 30 Aug 11

Eerrr! ommoin sense? Wossat?

  Snec 01 Sep 11

I would have thought anyone with a few grains of common-sense could work that out for themselves.

Yes -- Actually that's true of many of the things where a lot of money is wasted on research. How they all continue to get away with it beats me. Maybe everyone is just too busy being busy to notice.

  oresome 01 Sep 11

Without some evidence to support a conclusion, so called commonsense could be just a common fallacy so I think the research is justified, even if it is stating the obvious in many peoples eyes.

I would suggest the biggest problem with parenting is the lack of a father in many cases...........but I haven't done the research to back up my prejudice.


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