Ubuntu Linux, it was supposed to be so easy!

  Epirb406 11:59 24 May 09
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Had an old desktop lying around, thought I would get up and running with Linux for my kids.

Beguiled by articles telling me it couldn't go wrong I set off into the blue with Ubuntu 8.

With a clean hardisk I went for the full format and install and got to a working desktop fairly rapidly.

Unfortunately the mouse and keyboard (USB) would only work for 15 minutes or so and I then the system froze and I guess was 'hung'

Having tried various mice and conbinations I gave up and downloaded the latest Ubuntu, 9.

Reformatted, clean install and again to a working desktop fairly rapidly. Freezing problem still there and now the network is so slow a to be unusable.

I headed off for linux support but find myself completely bewildered as to what advice to take. As there essentially seens to be dozens of varieties it is really difficult to find advice that is relevant and I must confess that when I do find someone with similar problems I don't understand the fixes that are offered!

Anyone here who can offer some advice to a Linux Newbie who may just be about to decide that that penguin will never be my friend?

Cheers and sorry for the long post, Epirb.

  LastChip 12:38 24 May 09

OK, I'm sure we can help to sort you out, but first, can you tell us what the spec. of the "old PC" is?

Ubuntu is a fairly sophisticated distribution (distro) and although not as resource hungry as Windows, still needs respectable hardware to run properly.(and this has all the hallmarks of an under-powered machine).

If your machine is under-powered, there is almost certainly another distro that will run effectively.

One initial final thought, are you sure it is a software problem, rather than hardware? I don't mean in terms of the mouse or keyboard, but perhaps the motherboard USB controller itself.

  Charence 12:44 24 May 09

ubuntuforums.org is usually a good place to ask.. but you can ask here as well :)

click here thinks it could be an EXT4 (this is a filesystem like FAT or NTFS) problem, but since Ubuntu 8 didn't work for you, I guess that isn't the (only) issue. What you could try doing is install Ubuntu 9.04 and choose EXT3 as your filesystem.

click here seems to have a power issue.. probably not your problem either?

Which support pages are you bewildered by? Post a link here?

Also, what specs does your computer have? I had a computer with Intel Integrated graphics and that doesn't work too well with Ubuntu 8.10(intrepid)+, so that one is running on Ubuntu 8.04 (hardy)

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  scotty 13:03 24 May 09

I find the description of the mouse and keyboard only working for 15 minutes very strange. I am wondering if what you are describing is the whole system hanging after 15 minutes? If a computer (running any operating system) freezes after it has been running for a while, my first thoughts would be that it has an overheating problem. You say it is an old computer. Had it been unused for a long period before you installed Ubunutu? Are all the fans working?

I had a problem with the network being slow when I updated a system to Ubuntu 9.04. I think the problem was related to using IPv6. Some info here:
click here
but I recall that disabling IPv6 in version 9.04 was not simple.

  Epirb406 15:10 24 May 09

Hi all thanks for replys, yes, mabybe computer hanging rather than mouse and keyboard, maybe a usb issue....?

Specs are:

PC Chips M848A Motherboard with SIS 748 chipset.
AMD Athlon 1800 XP chip
with 512 MB RAM and a 40 GB 7200 ATA HDD.

So, in fact not much less than my windows machines!

PC been in use until recently on Windows 98, pretty unstable but not, I think heat related....

Thanks for help so far, Epirb.

  Epirb406 15:14 24 May 09

oops and an Nvidia GeForce4 MX 420 graphics card (No onboard video)

Sorry I forgot!

  DieSse 15:55 24 May 09

"PC been in use until recently on Windows 98, pretty unstable..."

Maybe there's a clue here. Win98 is not normally pretty unstable.

I run Ubuntu 9.04 (dual booted with WinXP) - and I've never had any hags with Ubuntu - so the advice to look for a hardware issue is possibly correct.

Whilst anything might be the cause, after overheating, the next most probable cause is faulty RAM.

Instructions here click here

  DieSse 15:56 24 May 09

I've never had any hags with Ubuntu

or hangs ;-))

  Epirb406 16:30 24 May 09

When I first had problems and had issues with a 256 module that was in there, Removed module and memtest gave overnight clean bill of health.

Don't put too much store by win 98 instability it was an old and neglected installation.

If you guys really think that it must be hardware related I will install a copy of windows and try that for stability before returning ti Linux.

I however think that hardware is fine.

Still scratching head here!

Brgds, Epirb.

  LastChip 16:56 24 May 09

Apparently, up until quite recently, there was a known bug in Ubuntu, that may be the cause of your problem.

Have you attempted to update the system yet, as my understanding is, a patch has been released to solve this problem.

If you haven't run update, try that first.

  Epirb406 17:55 24 May 09

Networking (wired) running so slow I can't update.

Was the bug hardware related?

Thanks for staying on the case....

Epirb.

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