Setting up pay per view website

  mother inferior 12:58 02 Mar 04
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I have been asked to add pay per view pages to an existing website (which, incidentally, strikes me as a very bad idea) but I'm not sure how to set it up. It would probably use PayPal for payment processing. Would it just be a matter of having the page on the "thank you for your payment" page? I know people can view "thank you for your payment" pages by typing the url or looking them up in the site's index - is there a way around this to ensure that they pay?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

  mother inferior 13:03 02 Mar 04

I should just clarify that the website does NOT involve porn or anything illegal, just in case you were wondering!

  mother inferior 13:03 02 Mar 04

I should just clarify that the website does NOT involve porn or anything illegal, just in case you were wondering!

  Taran 14:11 02 Mar 04

The process works like this.

1. Pages/content are protected in one of several ways

2. Payment is made to view said pages/content

2. On acknowledged receipt of payment, protected content is enabled for that visitor

What you're talking about is a small scale e-commerce system and it comes with a whole load of potential pitfalls.

Verifying payments to enable access to the pages is normally controlled using one of the dynamic languages [ASP, PHP, JSP, ColdFusion etc].

User sessions are one of the most common methods of imlementing user access - whatever the user does in their 'session' may be transposed from one to the next stage of their visit to the site. This includes payments, selections made in forms and so on. Close the browser and try to visit the page you were just at and you'll have a new user session ID so you're stuck.

One of the biggest problems as I see it will be verifying payment in real time to allow access to web content. Most online payment options are not real time although you can obviously get them.

Another stumbling block will be the pages to restrict access to. They would possibly work best if they were also coded in PHP/ASP since you could assign the URLs of the pages to the user [and their session ID] who had just coughed up for the duration of their visit.

The only other really practical alternative I can see offhand is to link the payment option into a members only section where a username and password are issued. This can be set to terminate at a given date/time if it is to be temporary or be a permanent login feature for that person who parted with their cash so that they can come back as a repeat visitor. Each method requires a very different approach.

Are you able to explain a bit about the site, what it is or offers and so on ?

It might help to formulate something appropriate if a few details were added to the mix intead of me waffling on about so much nonsense...

;o)

  Taran 14:11 02 Mar 04

The process works like this.

1. Pages/content are protected in one of several ways

2. Payment is made to view said pages/content

2. On acknowledged receipt of payment, protected content is enabled for that visitor

What you're talking about is a small scale e-commerce system and it comes with a whole load of potential pitfalls.

Verifying payments to enable access to the pages is normally controlled using one of the dynamic languages [ASP, PHP, JSP, ColdFusion etc].

User sessions are one of the most common methods of imlementing user access - whatever the user does in their 'session' may be transposed from one to the next stage of their visit to the site. This includes payments, selections made in forms and so on. Close the browser and try to visit the page you were just at and you'll have a new user session ID so you're stuck.

One of the biggest problems as I see it will be verifying payment in real time to allow access to web content. Most online payment options are not real time although you can obviously get them.

Another stumbling block will be the pages to restrict access to. They would possibly work best if they were also coded in PHP/ASP since you could assign the URLs of the pages to the user [and their session ID] who had just coughed up for the duration of their visit.

The only other really practical alternative I can see offhand is to link the payment option into a members only section where a username and password are issued. This can be set to terminate at a given date/time if it is to be temporary or be a permanent login feature for that person who parted with their cash so that they can come back as a repeat visitor. Each method requires a very different approach.

Are you able to explain a bit about the site, what it is or offers and so on ?

It might help to formulate something appropriate if a few details were added to the mix intead of me waffling on about so much nonsense...

;o)

  mother inferior 14:26 02 Mar 04

...for such an in-depth answer. It has confirmed, as I suspected, that it's a bit out of my league and I'm better off telling him to find someone else to do it. Thank you very much for your time, though. I relly appreciate it :)

If your interested, it's actually an amateur poetry site I set up for a friend and he's now decided that he wants people to pay to read his work, which I'm not convinced people would be willing to pay for. Don't get me wrong, he's a good poet, but if I was on a website and it asked me to pay to read poems, I'go somewhere else!

Thanks again.

:)

  mother inferior 14:26 02 Mar 04

...for such an in-depth answer. It has confirmed, as I suspected, that it's a bit out of my league and I'm better off telling him to find someone else to do it. Thank you very much for your time, though. I relly appreciate it :)

If your interested, it's actually an amateur poetry site I set up for a friend and he's now decided that he wants people to pay to read his work, which I'm not convinced people would be willing to pay for. Don't get me wrong, he's a good poet, but if I was on a website and it asked me to pay to read poems, I'go somewhere else!

Thanks again.

:)

  Taran 14:39 02 Mar 04

I thought the point of being an amatuer poet was the struggling poverty that fuelled the overwhelming emotion that drives their art ?

Or so I'd heard...

Ahem.

I'd say he'd be better off by miles if he self-funds a small publication of his works and tries to get it sold by some of the smaller independent bookstores.

I agree comletely with your comments about going elsewhere if confronted by a pay per poem site.

  Taran 14:39 02 Mar 04

I thought the point of being an amatuer poet was the struggling poverty that fuelled the overwhelming emotion that drives their art ?

Or so I'd heard...

Ahem.

I'd say he'd be better off by miles if he self-funds a small publication of his works and tries to get it sold by some of the smaller independent bookstores.

I agree comletely with your comments about going elsewhere if confronted by a pay per poem site.

An alternative (not that I believe there's any moneey in it) could be to simply sell the Poems in a downloadable eBook (or similar) format. this would obviosly still involve some relatively technical work to set up (out of my league also) but would seem to have less problems.

Another thing to bare in mind is that there are many books Available on-line for free (ie. Free as in Freedom, by sam williams or eGaia by Gary Alexander) yet these books are available to buy in print. Whilst this might knock some of the possible revenue I would hazard the suggestion that most people still prefer to do any substantial reading on paper so giving some of the work away free on the net could be seen as a worthwhile loss-leader. anyway it's just an idea for your friend to ponder.
hope something works out, H.

An alternative (not that I believe there's any moneey in it) could be to simply sell the Poems in a downloadable eBook (or similar) format. this would obviosly still involve some relatively technical work to set up (out of my league also) but would seem to have less problems.

Another thing to bare in mind is that there are many books Available on-line for free (ie. Free as in Freedom, by sam williams or eGaia by Gary Alexander) yet these books are available to buy in print. Whilst this might knock some of the possible revenue I would hazard the suggestion that most people still prefer to do any substantial reading on paper so giving some of the work away free on the net could be seen as a worthwhile loss-leader. anyway it's just an idea for your friend to ponder.
hope something works out, H.

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