i am buying a new pc

  dirt 10:44 17 Feb 06
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i am about to buy a new pc as i fear i will lose money on my old one if i do not upgrade now.

the new pc come with no o/s, keyboard etc, just the system unit and all the inner workings, including:

amd 3500 64 bit base unit
1.44 mb floppy drive
200 gb sata hdd
1024 mb ddr ram
6 usb ports
network interface
broadband ready
radeon 256 pci express
5.1 sound o/b
10/100 network interface
parallel and serial connectors
dvd/rw rewriter
dvd player

£500 pound including vat

the main jump for me of course is updating to 64 bit
as this is the way forward then my current machine must begin to lose value quicker.
also sata takes over my ide hdd etc

my current spec is:

Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2
System Model American Megatrends Inc. 1.0
processor 1.93 gigahertz AMD Athlon XP 128 kilobyte primary memory cache 512 kilobyte
secondary memory cache
Maxtor 6Y120L0 122.93 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
ASUS CRW-5232AX
JLMS XJ-HD166S dvd-ROM
3.5" format removeable media
1024 ddr ram
Gxcube ATI RADEON 9600 pro 256mb encore (agp)
GATEWAY VX900 monitor (19")
C-Media AC97 Audio Device 5.1 sound o/b
MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device
Standard Game Port
Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device
4 usb
as rock K7S8X. 3.0

this pc is modem and broadband ready etc.

i was thinking about trying to get £300 for the system unit and keep my monitor etc as i can't afford to by tft/lcd etc
plus i am told that my monitor isn't too bad at all.
i could put £200 to the £300 if i get it and then updgrade.
is the new pc worth it?
am i waisting my money?
is the pc guy giving me a low end graphics card?

i could really use some good advice.

thanks

dirt

  Totally-braindead 11:17 17 Feb 06

The PC I just sold to a mate was a similar spec to yours although it was based on a more expensive motherboard and I only had 512mb RAM, I sold it for £250. Hes happy and I'm happy.
I'm not sure about the graphics on the new PC see if you can find more info, plus if you can try to get a motherboard that will allow you to upgrade to a dual processor when they get cheaper plus consider getting a motherboard that will take 2 graphics cards SLI in the case of Nvidia or Crossfire in the case of ATI.
I have a ASUS A8N-SLI deluxe board, it will take the dual processors when they get a bit cheaper plus it has SLI so when I can afford it I'll put in another 6600GT graphics card.

  dirt 17:18 17 Feb 06

spoke to the guy at the shop and he's changed the spec abit since we last spoke.

the graaphics card is now the
nvidia geforce 6200 256mb ddr2 pci express.

i think he also does a slightly better machine
with 1gig of ram and a 512mb graphics card
but i can't think of the make off hand
going for £700 i think

are there any decent companies out there that build to spec but don't price compare to pc world etc??

any ideas on what steps i should take would be most appreciated

thanks

dirt

  Jimmy14 17:54 17 Feb 06

dirt, i have had a look on mesh computers online shop and have came across their elite 630 gs desktop. Here is the spec for £650

Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 630 with
HT Tech.(3.0GHz , 2MB Cache, 800MHz)
Genuine Windows® XP Home
ASUS P5GDC Deluxe Mainboard
1024MB DDR 400 Memory
160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive
512MB Nvidia 7300GS PCI-X Graphics
19" Viewsonic VA912 Digital & Multi Media
Flat Panel Display with built in Speakers
Sony 16x Dual Layer DVD Writer
7.1 Channel Surround Sound Audio
Logitech Desktop KB & Optical Mouse
Classic Warranty-3Years parts & lab.

The graphics card is i think what you wanted 512mb and can handle high demanding applications. Here is the details on the graphics card.

NVIDIA® GeForce® 7300 GS graphics processing unit (GPU) allows you to experience the latest gaming effects without compromising performance. Boasting the 3D graphics features of today’s most advanced GPUs—including full support for Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 Shader Model 3.0 and true high dynamic-range (HDR) lighting—the GeForce 7300 GS also brings stunning, high definition video and superb picture clarity with minimal CPU usage with NVIDIA® PureVideo™ technology. For the performance and features you need to play the latest games and enjoy home-theater quality video, make sure your PC is equipped with a GeForce 7300 GS.

As for the processor, it is 64 bit as are all pentium 4 600 series ones. You can also customize all desktops to your own spec and this is quite a deal. Hope it helps you. James

  Totally-braindead 18:03 17 Feb 06

click here how about that one, still need to add an operating system and you could always add more memory later, much better graphics card than the 6200. The 7300GS is ok I suppose buy the 6600GT is a lot better click here

  007al 18:38 17 Feb 06

The new 7300 is the replacement for the 6200,so its not going to blow it away.
Its hard to say what you will get for your pc.
I have got more for a system by breaking it down and selling it as parts or bundles on ebay.
The pc Totally-braindead has chosen is good,and Novatech are a great company if you have any problems.
Do you know anyone who can build you a system?
You can get a nice set up with £500 if you choose carefully

  polo 18:38 17 Feb 06

Take a look click here

  007al 18:41 17 Feb 06

Also,if the guy you`ve been talking to sells used pc`s...ask if he will do a part exchange for the new.Or ask if he can sell it in the shop for a percentage.

  dirt 20:24 19 Feb 06

first of all thankyou for all your replies.
that little lot has certainly given me something to think about.

can anyone give me their thoughts on this pc from mesh.
does it come with 2 processors?
can it take two graphics cards?

if i can get them to lose the o/s, which i already have, then that might knock the price down a little.
also if i chose this machine am i paying for a case i don't need.
are there any other ways of getting the price down?

i will contact mesh but would like anyone's thought on this as the truth often comes from those who aren't making the profit.

thank you

dirt

  Harpur 20:34 19 Feb 06

take a look at evesham. they appear to top the customer service league so it may be worth a little bit more to you

  dirt 00:16 20 Feb 06

click here


sorry i forgot to add the link in my last post..........der!!!

first of all thankyou for all your replies.
that little lot has certainly given me something to think about.

can anyone give me their thoughts on this pc from mesh.
does it come with 2 processors?
can it take two graphics cards?

if i can get them to lose the o/s, which i already have, then that might knock the price down a little.
also if i chose this machine am i paying for a case i don't need.
are there any other ways of getting the price down?

i will contact mesh but would like anyone's thought on this as the truth often comes from those who aren't making the profit.

thank you

dirt

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