OK for the benefit of others I resolved this issue myself. The problem was caused by the remnants of that Comodo firewall, free version. I now know that it is impossible to un-install it for an amateur. This could be construed as deliberate as a lot of the fixes suggest re-installing it to get the services that were lost back. Anyway what I had to do was enter the registry and delete every item that mentioned comodo. You can use find in registy as well to find bits. I also had to go to device manager, select show hidden devices and disabbled 2 entries for comodo drivers. I will delete these later. I got a lot of the information via google and the comodo forum.
The moral of the story be wary of installing freeware and take a lot of the reviews with a pinch of salt. And most of all ask google is it a nuisance.