can i learn to program?

  Aol Hater 21:26 14 Jul 03

hi just a little question really, my friend has just got into programing and is making a program it is just a diary/address book etc, but he is doing really well on it and has search facilities etc, what i would like to know is how hard is it to learn to program? he also made a download manager, i think he uses visual basic? or c+? is there any online recourses and/or trail programs that help you do this as i dont want to spend a fortune when i might not be able to pick it up


  Gaz 25 21:29 14 Jul 03

Get some books, thats how I started.

Your local book shop will have books on Programming and choose which one you want to start of with,

Good luck in the future, and it is hard work.


  perpetually-perplexed 21:32 14 Jul 03

true, but like anything else if you find you have an aptitude for it youll find it much easier, look in your local bookshop and then after you've read the backs of those look online for the best price, my local library has a good selection of books on v-basic and c+

there are various free compilers out there, and the internet is crawling with tutorials and free code projects that you can learn from. choose a language you wish to learn and type its name into google and away you go! programming is a wonderful game and highly addictive.

personaly i use the delphi 7 IDE which costs 100quid but was given away free(with limited support) on the jan2003 edition of personal computer world magazine if you can get a back issue. Amazon has hundreds of books to choose from about every language, start with a book about the basics then progress from there.
go for it, you'll learn so much about what makes a computer work. (and what makes a computer crash and burn)

  VoG II 21:42 14 Jul 03

If you work your way back through the last couple of days of the helproom you will find a couple of similar threads - with answers.

  woodchip 21:51 14 Jul 03

Is it worth it?????

  perpetually-perplexed 21:56 14 Jul 03

probabally not worth it, if i was learning now and paying for it myself id rather learn to fly or buy myself a bigger boat.

lifes too short, but i can say that cos i learned at someones elses expense and was paid aswell which makes it easier

  woodchip 22:12 14 Jul 03

Good point. There is so much free software out there I would not as you say waist my lifes time

well woodchip some like programming some like trainspotting then there those that like caravans and sheep each to their own, programming has many benefits and is well worthwhile if you have the time and inclination.

and there wouldnt be any free software out there if no-one learnt to code.

  woodchip 22:27 14 Jul 03

And you are about 16 years old

  VoG II 22:28 14 Jul 03

It is definitely worth it.

The feeling of elation that you get when your first program pops up a box saying "Hello World" is amazing.

My first experience of this was being "forced" by my employer to learn Fortran 25 years ago. Whilst initially reluctant I have never looked back. I even used to program in Fortran on my trusty Amiga - gave it plenty to think about with 20 or so nested Do Loops and examined the results the following morning.

Most of what I do now is Visual Basic for Applications in Excel; either to do better what the Microsoft programmers provided (modest as always) or to provide functions etc. that were never provided or thought of for specialised applications.

It allows you to take control of your 'puter so that it does exactly what you want (if you get the code right, of course).

The best analogy I can think of for you is buying a kitchen from B&Q (or whatever) versus designing and building your own.

I hope it's hot up there, it sure is here!

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