Personally, I don't use any of the ones you are using. I use JetAudio free from click here and it works perfect for me every time. I don't listen to Everton but I do listen to BBC streams quite often. I found Real Player to be a "Real Pain" so took it off. Jetaudio can read Real Player files like .ra .ram etc.. The download file is 18mb but it about 7 minutes on my Broadband connection at 600kbs. Give it a try. Once installed it needs to be setup. Go to Preferences, File, File Type Association. Click on Check All and then Update and OK. It should now be able to cope with any Audio/Video file type thrown at it.