Another dual boot question

  plectrum 18:38 04 Nov 03
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I have just installed a blank 2nd drive in my pc.
I am currently running XP Pro, is there a way that i can install Win 98 SE onto the blank drive without having to start from scratch with both OS's.

  flecc 19:58 04 Nov 03

Easy way is disconnect the XP drive and then install 98 to the slave drive which the BIOS will treat as the master. Reconnecting the XP drive will return you to XP, but you'll need a boot manager since XP won't recognise 98 installed that way. It would have to be a boot manager that will install on XP though, since installing one to the 98 at the time of installation might not work. Setting that for the 98 to be the active partition might be over-ruled by XP when it was reconnected.

Alternatively the BOOT.INI file could be edited to add the Windows 98.

There is another way if you have a copy of Partition Magic that is suitable for installation on XP. Here's the link:-

click here

  temp003 07:18 05 Nov 03

The easiest way would be as suggested by flecc, to use Partition Magic and Bootmagic that comes with it.

If you don't have PM and don't want to spend money on it. You can try the following.

In summary, you need to disconnect the XP hard disk (XP hdd), set the spare hdd (98 hdd) as master. Install 98 on it. From within 98, do a "partial installation" of XP, the purpose of which is to create the necessary dual boot files and to create an XP boot sector for the 98 disk. Edit boot.ini to create the correct boot menu options. Then reconnect XP hdd as slave.

The steps to take will take some time to spell out. They may seem complicated, but are easier than they appear.

First boot into XP and create a backup boot floppy for your existing XP boot files, so that if anything goes wrong, you can still boot back into XP.

In XP, double click My Computer. Click Tools, Folder Options, View tab, and (1) Tick Show hidden files and folders (2) untick Hide file extensions for known file types (3) Hide protected operating system files (4) click OK.

Then insert a floppy. Right click drive A and select Format. On the window that pops up, just click Start and do NOT tick any of the available option boxes. You must take this step within XP, and even if you are using a brand new floppy.

After formatting the floppy, go to C drive and copy the following files to the floppy: (1) ntldr (2) ntdetect.com (3) boot.ini

Remove floppy.

If you don't already have a 98 boot floppy, click here and download and create the 98 boot disk. After that, remove the floppy and turn off computer. Then disconnect the XP hdd and connect the 98 hdd. Remember to set the 98 hdd as master.

Then restart computer with 98 boot floppy, choose Start with CDROM support.

If the 98 hdd already has a primary partition, then at the A:\> prompt, you can just type

format c:

and press Enter.

Then after formatting, insert 98 CD, and type

x:

and press Enter, where x is the letter of the CDROM drive.

Then type:

setup

and press Enter to start the 98 installation.

If you're not sure what partitions are already on the 98 hdd, then at the A:\> prompt, type

fdisk

and press Enter. Say yes to large disk support. Choose display partition information and see what's there. If necessary, delete existing partition(s) and then create a primary partition. After that, exit fdisk, restart with the 98 floppy still in, start with CDROM support, and format the C partition and install 98.

After successfully installing, boot into 98, insert XP CD. Choose Install Windows XP, and then select from the drop down list "Install New Copy (Advanced)". Then just follow the prompts as if you were going to install a fresh copy of XP. Ultimately XP setup will copy files to the 98 hard disk. It is also at this stage that XP Setup will change the 98 hdd's boot sector to an XP boot sector, and create dual boot files between Windows 98 and "XP Home Setup".

After copying files, you will be prompted to restart. If there is an option not to restart, or to restart later (I think there is), choose that.

Just in case there is no such option, or you miss it, don't worry, when it restarts, get your finger ready on the "down arrow" on the keyboard and as soon as you see a boot menu, press it to select Windows 98 and boot back into 98 (you only have a few seconds to make the selection). Even if you accidentally get into XP Setup, just reset computer and choose to go into 98.

See next post.

  temp003 07:21 05 Nov 03

Back in 98 (with or without restart), in My Computer, click View, Options (or Folder Options), view tab, and select Show All Files, and untick Hide MSDOS file extensions. Click OK.

Then go to C drive. Check that you have the following files on C: ntldr, ntdetect.com, boot.ini and bootsect.dos

Right click boot.ini and select Properties. If the Read Only box is ticked, untick it and click OK.

Then double click boot.ini, which will open in Notepad.

It should read:

[boot loader]

timeout=5

default=C:\$WIN_NT$~BT\bootsect.dat

[operating systems]

C:\$WIN_NT$~BT\bootsect.dat="Microsoft Windows XP Home Setup"

C:\="Microsoft Windows 98"

Edit the boot.ini text so that it reads as follows:

[boot loader]

timeout=10

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home" /fastdetect

C:\="Microsoft Windows 98"

After editing, click File and Save. Then exit Notepad.

Turn off computer. Reconnect XP hdd and set it as slave. Go into BIOS settins to make sure the XP hdd is detected and is the slave, and also make sure that the first boot device is the primary master. Save settings and exit BIOS to let it boot. If you get a boot menu between XP Home and 98, then the computer is booting from the 98 hdd. Try to boot into XP to see if it works. Try the 98 option as well.

If it doesn't work, you may have to take further steps in XP's Recovery Console (this is because despite the XP boot sector on the 98 hdd, the XP hdd may still insist it is the master). If so, post back.

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