Surface Pro (2017) vs Surface Pro 4
currently have saved almost £1,500 for a new gaming desktop, im only 19 so this will be a quite an expensive purchase for me, so need any advice you can offer.
Ive been looking over a few desktops and have narrowed it down to about three, can anyone give me any advice on the three systems or maybe recommend one of your own.
i currently dont have to time to build my own, as much as i would love to its just not do-able.
The first system is Dells XPS 700: specs:
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6400 processor (2.13GHz, 1066MHz, 2MB cache)
Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005 (incl Operating System Re-Installation CD)
Premium XPS Service, 3 Year (incl. Gaming and On-Site Support)
1024MB Dual Channel DDR2 533MHz [2x512] Memory
320GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA/100 Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst™ cache
16x DVD+/-RW & 16x DVD Drives
DUAL 256MB nVidia™ GeForce™ 7900GS graphics cards
Integrated 5.1 Audio with RealTek Enhanced Software
Dell™ 5650 5.1 Surround Speaker System
Which comes to £1,522 inc VAT and Shipping
Doesnt come with a monitor but can use my current intill i can afford antother.
The second System is Alienwares area 51-7500:
Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition UK with SP2 - English
AlienCare 1-Year Free Phone 24/7 and Collect & Return
Alienware® P2 Chassis - Space Black
Alienware® AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling - Astral Blue
700 Watt Alienware® Approved Multi-GPU Power Supply
Alienware® Approved NVIDIA nForce™ 4 SLI Motherboard
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz 2MB Cache 1066MHz FSB
1GB DDR2 PC-6400 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 x 512MB
Dual 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ 7900 GT - SLI Enabled
Single Drive Configuration - 250 GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7,200 rpm with 8MB Cache
16x Dual Layer DVD±R/W Recorder
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy™ 4
£1,550 also with no monitor
Third System is Mesh's X-treme² Eclipse (12):
AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 5200+ - Socket AM2
Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
Aluminium ATX Midi Tower + 550W PSU - Black
ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe ,AM2 ,nForce 570 SLI, PCIe - ATX Mainboard
2048MB DDR2 533MHz Memory - (2x 1024MB)
300GB Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB Buffer
Super Format SONY 18x Dual Layer DVD Writer +R/-R/RW/RAM
256MB nVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT - Dual DVI,HDTV & TV-Out + DVI - PCI-Express
20" Viewsonic VA2012W Multi Media Widescreen TFT Display
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 4 Sound Card
Advantage Warranty - 2 Years On-Site + 1 Year BTB-T&C
Any advice on the above systems/company, thanks for reading and sorry for the long post.
What about this Evesham machine click here you get ATI CrossFire instead of Nvidia. Mesh are good but have you seen how many threads are in this forum about them if something goes wrong.
The only reason i havent placed my order with MESH is because of the threads ive been reading on here, after a quick google search ive found the net plauged with bad service complaints.
Will take alook at the Axis Blaze Plus although was kinda hoping for a Nvidia which ive had good experiences with in the past.
You have to take a look at these guys - Cyberpower. Just got back from the states and they're huge over there. They're in the UK too. Great machines and great value. Like this one in particuar
And you have hundreds left in your budget to get a great monitor and some upgrades
Thanks, ok adding a 4th system.
CASE: NZXT LEXA Tower 400W Case W/ Side-panel Window
CPU: (Socket AM2) AMD Athlon™64 X2 4600+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MOTHERBOARD: (Socket AM2)MSI K9N SLI Platinum nForce 570 SLI MCP Chipset DDR2/800 SATA-II RAID MBoard w/ Dual 16x PCI-Express
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)1GB (2x512MB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
VIDEO CARD: NEW !!! NVIDIA Geforce 7900 GT 256MB 16X PCI Express Video Card
VIDEO CARD 2: NEW !!! NVIDIA Geforce 7900 GT 256MB 16X PCI Express Video Card
LCD Monitor: ViewSonic VA1912W WideScreen 19" Color TFT Active Matrix SXGA LCD Display Monitor
HARD DRIVE: 300GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16M Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive
Hard Drive 2: NONE
Optical Drive: SONY DUAL FORMAT 16X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLUE COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: SONY 16X DVD-ROM (BLACK COLOR)
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
If you guys had to pick one of the 4, which would it be, bear in mind the company aswell (Mesh :( shame loved the system/price)
One thing worth considering for a gaming machine is to get two 10,000rpm HDDs in Raid 0 - that's what I've got and it's very fast indeed. You could add another bigger, slower HDD for storage.
Also, if you're going the Nvidia route, what about one 7950 card with two GPUs on it? I'd go for 2GB of Ram, too, which is a bit of a luxury but I suspect you'll appreciate it when it comes to upgrading to Vista.
Think about cooling, too - I've heard that Alienwares are deafening on the fan front, though I could be wrong on newer machines.
In my opinion, i wouldnt go too far on some of the specs you have suggested. Instead of having 2 NVidea 7900gs graphics cards. I would buy the single 512mb 7900gtx. That way, when you get enough money and need to upgrade the pc, just buy anouther 512mb 7900gtx. If you get 2 215mb cards, you will have to replace both or buy a new pc. Also, i would suggest you get a 1gb DDR2 800mhz RAM, because again, you can just buy the same one when you need to. Think about the future and make sure the PC is highly upgradeable. I would recommend the NVidea Gforce 590 SLI mother board, its the best out and Alienware has it as standard, make sure you have enough PSU power as well. Make sure you dont buy important parts from ASUS, they maybe cheaper but certainly not the same quality.
Anyone ever used click here
some pretty good systems well under my budget.
AMD AM2 Athlon™ 64 X2-3800+ Dual Core
ASUS M2N SLI Sli Motherboard
2048 DDR2 667MHZ
1x 7950GX2 1024MB
160gb Sata2 HardDrive
Windows Media Center
Sony 52 x CD Writer / DVD Combo Drive
8024 550 Watt Colors IT Case
6.1 Digital Soundcard
Front Audio & 2 USB 2.0 Connectors
Rear Audio & 4-6 Rear USB 2.0 Connectors
10/100 Ethernet Included
5 Year Warranty - 3 Years Parts & Remaining 2 Years Free Labour
Cant be that cheap surely?
Can you guys check it out and see what you think.
Thanks for all your help btw
Been looking around at a couple reviews and havent found many (if any) complaints about PCoption.
How good is the system posted above (the PCoption one)? any changes you would make before i put an order through.
For the PC Option choice MY concerns would be:
1. Relatively small hard disk. Unless you're sure it'll be enough or willing to upgrade in the future if necessary.
2. Windows Media Center for a gaming PC? Not too sure - I'd go for WinXP Pro
3. DVD CD-writer combo? I'd get a separate DVD-rom & DVD-writer instead.
4. You'll also need to purchase a good/gaming quality monitor, keyboard, mouse & speakers. None on that page were any good, & their monitors click here seem a little over-priced &/or unsuitable (even the Asus PG191 gaming monitor - reviews click here & click here).
I also liked the look & components of the Mesh PC - probably cannot be beaten for price-performance. G
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