ATI 9700 or 9700 PRO

  Celery is very stringy 22:21 24 Feb 03
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Can anyone tell me if there is a difference? I've just purchase a Mesh machine which is supposed to have the PRO in it. However, how do I check? There's no reference to it on the board itself and direct x simply says "9700 AGP (ND)". I don't want to have paid for a Pro and then got something which is even mildly inferior. Anyone's help much appreciated.

Celery

  A Pound of Sausages 23:32 24 Feb 03

PRO is more powerful.

Use SiSoft Sandra to analyze your system. It should tell you what card you have.

  ArthurFowler 13:30 26 Feb 03

Celery,

Apparently the Rage3d software (free from their site: click here) should be able to tell you. I've not tried it yet. I might do soon though, as Mesh have just replaced by non-pro with a pro model (but I can't tell just by looking at the new one).

I should be able to tell by re-running the 3dmark2001 tests that I ran with the non-pro. Hope to see a jump of 1000 points (to 14,600 ish)to prove that it is a pro!

Good luck

Arthur

  Celery is very stringy 22:06 27 Feb 03

Many thanks for the advice however I'm not much of an expert on these things. The Sisoft software says I have a 9700 x86/mmx/3Dnow!/SSe chip. Can I assume this isn't a PRO?

  Spook Tooth 22:36 27 Feb 03

Do the default Graphics Processor and Memory clockspeeds tally with what 9700 Pro speeds are meant to be? The Pro version is supposed to be higher than normal 9700 version. The user does not set these defaults themselves. The default should be set higher, and as far as I know, all cards have a default or manufacturer setting.

You may have access to these in Display Properties, though more likely through whatever software you received with the card/or as is downloadable. This is what I'd do to determine the graphics card identity, save from physically removing the card itself/having it checked by independent computer retailer.

  Spook Tooth 22:38 27 Feb 03

Do the default Graphics Processor and Memory clockspeeds tally with what 9700 Pro speeds are meant to be? The Pro version is supposed to be higher than normal 9700 version. The user does not set these defaults themselves. The default should be set higher, and as far as I know, all cards have a default or manufacturer setting.


You may have access to these in Display Properties, though more likely through whatever software you received with the card/or as is downloadable. This is what I'd do to determine the graphics card identity, save from physically removing the card itself/having it checked by an independent computer specialist.

  Spook Tooth 22:40 27 Feb 03

Sorry for double posting - the site is reporting packet loss my end, and a very poor response time: I did refresh before the first post was made but nothing showed. Now there's two showing! Typical.......

  ArthurFowler 08:48 28 Feb 03

I believe that the clock speed of the non Pro is around 275mhz, the Pro should be around 325mhz. Not sure where you will find this in Sisoft, but I know that you can't see it through usual Windows facilities. Have a look round sisoft, if not, try the rage utility that I pointed you at as I'm sure that will tell you the clock speed.

Arthur

  Celery is very stringy 23:43 28 Feb 03

Guys, thanks for the help once again. I'll be honest and say I'm new to buying PC's and am not 100% sure where I find the clock speed. I can't see in Sisoft. Arthur, were u talking about the rage3d tweak software or something else?

Celery

  Kyomii 02:07 01 Mar 03

The only difference between the non-pro and the pro is that the PRO version has DDR ram and so will have a faster memory clock speed.

  Kyomii 02:20 01 Mar 03

To be clearer, as you are new to computers, the non-pro has SDR ram (singl-data) memory whereas the pro has DDR (double data) memory so will run faster.

You can download this utility AIDA32 (which is excellent) click here

Once downloaded and installed, click on the program and wait for it to load. Once loaded, click on "display" then click on "GPU"

Here you will see a list, the first list is "graphics processor properties," but its the second list - "memory bus properties" that you need to look at (under bus type and bus width)

Underneath memory bus properties, look for the line that says "real clock" (about third one down) and it should say the speed (Mhz) and DDR OR SDR - if it says DDR you have the pro version.

So, for example, you will have a line like this:

Real Clock 266 MHz DDR

OR you will see

Real Clock 266 MHz SDR

The figure 266 is not necessarily the figure you will see though, it depends on your card speed.

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