Arbico versus CyberPowerSystem

  got2nesa 18:57 25 Nov 08
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Sure it's an E8600, but I don't think the rest of the specs make up for it...

But I don't know much, afterall...

What do you guys think?

Serious gaming pc for £1000 from Arbico? Or is it really just too cheap?

  got2nesa 19:30 25 Nov 08

Here's the Arbico system for £1590...

PC Case: Antec 900 Black Gaming (1 x 200mm Fan)
Power Supply: Quiet Xilence Modular 1200W Six PCI-E
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 CPU - included in price
Heatsink & CPU Fan: Standard Heatsink & CPU Fan - Included
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L - Included
Memory: 4GB (4 x 1GB) Kingston PC5300 667Mhz DDR2 - Included
PCI-E Graphics: 2GB ATI HD 4870x2 PCI Express
PhysX Card: None
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer
Primary Hard Drive: 1000GB SATA 2 7200rpm
Secondary Hard Drive: None
External Hard Drive: None
Main Optical Drive: 22x Dual Layer DVD +/- Rewriter - included in price
Secondary Optical Drive: None
Floppy Drive: None
Memory Card Reader: None
Dial-Up Modem: None
Network Adapter: PCI 802.11n 300Mbps Wireless Network Card
Bluetooth: None
TV Tuner: None
Front USB Ports: 2 Front USB Ports - included in price
Back USB Ports: 4 Back USB Ports - included in price
Firewire: None
TFT Monitor: 22" Samsung SM2253BW Widescreen VGA/DVI 10000:1 2ms
TFT Dead Pixel Check: Not Included
Keyboard & Mouse Combo: None
Wired Keyboard: Standard Multimedia Keyboard - included in price
Mouse: Standard Wired Optical Mouse - included in price
Headset: Razer Barracuda 5.1 Gaming Headset
Gaming Accessories: None
Speakers: 2.1 Surround Sound Speakers - included in price
All-in-One-Printers: None
VOIP Hardware: None
Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32bit Version) - Included
Antivirus & Security Software: Not Included
Multimedia Software: Nero Burning Rom - included in price
Office Software: OpenOffice - included in price
Warranty: 2 Years Return To Base (1st yr. Parts & Labour, 2nd yr. Labour) - Included

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  got2nesa 19:30 25 Nov 08

And the CyberPowerSystem pc for £2426...

Case: Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gamer 420W Case with Side Window
Lights & Illumination: NONE
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Maximum Case Cooling Fans for your selected case, and match the colour of the fans already in the case
Power Supply Upgrade: 1300 Watts Power Supplies (Tagan 1300W TG1300-BZ PipeRock Series Modular Power Supply)
CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E8600 @ 3.33GHz 1333FSB 6MB L2 ***Overclockable XXX*** Cache 64-bit
Overclocking Service: XXX (Extreme overclocking 20% to 30%)
Cooling Fan: Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme CPU Cooler ***Overclockable XXX***
Motherboard: (QX9650/Q9770 Support) Asus P5E DELUXE Intel X48 Chipset CrossFire FSB1600 DDR2/1066Mhz Mainboard w/GbLAN, USB2.0, IEEE1394, & 7.1Audio ***Overclockable XXX***
Memory: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)4GB (2x2GB) PC8500 DDR2/1066Mhz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Dominator ***Overclockable XXX***)
VGA Power Supply: NONE
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB DDR5 PCI-Express Dual DVI-I & TVO
Video Card 2: NONE
Video Card 3: NONE
Monitor & LCD: 22& quot; TFT Active Matrix LCD Display (Samsung SM2253BW 22& quot; 2MS Wide LCD Display DVI Monitor)
2nd Monitor: NONE
Hard Drive: Single Hard Drive (1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 32M Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive)
Data Hard Drive: NONE
Hard Drive Cooler: Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System (1 x System)
Optical Drive: SONY DUAL FORMAT 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (SILVER COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: NONE
Sound: Creative Labs X-FI Xtreme Gamer 7.1 PCI Sound Card
Speakers: Logitech X-240 2.1 Configuration Speakers System
Network: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
MODEM: NONE
Keyboard: Logitech PS/2 Keyboard (Black)
Mouse: Logitech MX518 Gaming-Grade Optical PS2/USB Mouse
Extra Thermal Display : NONE (AS SHOWN)
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: D-LINK DWL G520 Super G 108Mbps PCI Adapter
Wireless 802.11B/G Access Point: NONE
Flash Media Reader/Writer: None
Cable Wiring: Professional Wiring for All WIRINGs Inside The System Chasis with High Performance Thermal Compound on CPU
Cables: DVI Male to Male Cable (3m)
Video Camera: NONE
Power Surge Protection: Belkin 6-Socket Surge Protector
IEEE Card: NONE
USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
USB Portable Drive: USB 2.0 3.5& quot; 7200RPM External Hard Drive (USB 2.0 3.5& quot; 7200RPM External Hard Drive 1TB)
Floppy: NONE
OS: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (64-bit Edition)
Media Center Remote & TV Tuner: NONE
RUSH SERVICE: RUSH!!! READY TO SHIP IN 5 BUSINESS DAYS
WARRANTY SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT


The major difference is in the professional quality of the Cyber one... I like it better because I think that it will be more customizable in the future than the Arbico one. With the professional overclocking, wire-management, cooling, and top-brand hardware, it certainly is expected that it will cost more.

In fact, when I built the identicle PC on Ebuyer (a very low-cost PC-parts store) it came out to be £2100...

So for an extra £300 you get it pre-built, professionally, overclocked, and a 3 year warranty + lifetime tech support... I think it's worth it. So Arbico may have a good deal for playing some of today's games okay, but I think the future is more secure with the second option. I can easily upgrade the second one, considering its massive 1300watt psu, I'll be able to crossfire the latest gfx cards and update the cpu in the top-notch mobo... unlike Arbico's generic mobo which lacks even crossfire support.

So there's my perspective, any tech savy people care to comment and encourage me to make the right choice?

I keep running around trying to find the best buy, and I really think that I can't beat this one for £2400... I know its a lot but after matching piece for piece on ebuyer I realized that if I built this same pc myself it would cost £2100....

-It's the best Core Duo processor for gaming (and its overclocked)
-Great mobo with future upgradables
- best graphics cards 4870x2 (overclocked)
-amazing cooling/etc
-great LCD display
-great gaming keyboard/mouse/headset

If I were buying the tower alone it would cost less than £1500, but I'm not, and in the future I'll only be upgrading so I think it will just be £300 here and £100 there upgrades which should make this pc last for many years...

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks.

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